Comments on: LOST Analysis: Sundown

By: Doug Clinton

Doug Clinton — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:52:55 +0000

I still maintain that the usual notions of good and evil are reductive in terms of this show – despite all the black and white analogies, I think this is going to come down to shades of grey on both sides.

Also, in terms of Dogen’s comments, that bad guys never think of themselves as “Evil”, so I’m not inclined to read anything into Dogen’s substitution of the word “wrong”.

By: Rob V

Rob V — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 23:16:49 +0000

Does that mean that Dogen would have eventually tried to get the other “good” candidates to kill themselves or each other? There’s no way Hurley is tipping toward evil so he must have been on the chopping block given that scenario.

By: Emalee

Emalee — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:37:46 +0000

I want to write a million things but I only have time for this.
Dogen made an analogy of good and evil being on a scale. He said that “Sayid’s tipped the wrong way.” He didn’t say it tipped the evil way, just the “wrong” way. But if Jacob is evil, the wrong way would be good now wouldn’t it? So I took that as not Jacob’s way and I’m still going with that Moster Locke is the way to go and Jacob is the evil one.

By: Doug Clinton

Doug Clinton — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:25:43 +0000

I wondered about Sayid giving faux Locke time to speak, but I actually agree with faux Locke’s assesment of the situation – that Dogen was trying to get Sayid killed.

How Dogen was keeping Smokey out (wasn’t it the ashes?) is an excellent question, but since it probably has something to do with “magic”, I don’t particularly need the details.

As for the mystery someone coming to the island, #108 on the lighthouse dial pointed to “Wallace”, which means that the best candidate to show up on the island (other than Mickey Mouse) is Veronica Mars’ best friend

Seriously, though – Desmond and Whitmore need to be drawn back into the story before the series wraps up, but the way this show keeps us guessing, I’m not counting on one of them being the cavalry quite yet.

I agree that the conflict on the Island likely has global ramifications, but the polarity between Jacob and the Smoke Monster seems to be more about destiny vs. free will than good vs. evil, so I don’t know that that show will ever spell out “good” and “evil” in direct terms with those two.

By: Matthew Tyndall

Matthew Tyndall — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:36:09 +0000

I have 3 big questions about the episode.

Was Dogen right about killing Smokey before he spoke?

Did him speaking give him some control over Sayid, and therefore maybe redemption for Sayid later?

How was Dogen the one keeping Smokey out?

Lost is focusing in on alot of short term questions but I think in the next few episodes we will begin to see the big story play out. Where does Desmond and Whitmore come into play? They have to be big missing pieces to the mystery of the Island. Maybe Des is the one that Jacob wants to come to the Island. Whitmore is the only character left alive with the most knowledge of the island, well maybe besides Richard.

The polarization of the island is happening and its very similar to the way the Losties split between Jack and Locke before. These are the armies that Whitmore was speaking about before.

I believe this is going to be just about being a candidate for Jacob. The conflict on the island will have reverberations for the entire world.

BTW dont think Jacob is the essence of all things good either. Maybe smoky is the good guy???